Hi Kiwi. Thanks for the advice, yes I guess that we have all been caught out on that. I have solved that problem without having found an explanation. I deleted everything in my TF mods file, I had just about every mod available. I then reinstalled just those I really needed, including your latest ATT 8005, now all works fine. It must have been a couple of mods that were colliding. I have used exclusively your ATT mod since its introduction, I wouldn’t play TF without it. It is a really excellent feature. Many thanks
David