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+1 here too, certainly ! The only way to stop the endless sequence of annoying out of date popups currently is to put the game on pause. Tried that for a couple hours but it’s no fun, really.
Thanks mucho for your elaborate explanation about terrain modding, Klinn !
Very interesting ! Must say i din’t know about M and N for road manipulation ( i do use it to turn stations around). Played around with it a bit and it works great. Understand you’ll have to be a rich man to work the terrain to your liking this way 😉
A very innovative method to make a city more appealing. Thanks a lot again for the inspiration ! ( I just did away with my latest, umpteenth map, no matter the 165M it accumulated, and started a new map in 1850 with your amazing Metropolis in the back of my head. 🙂
( not sure why but sofar i always love to start again, maybe it’s the early years of road and rail transportation that appeal to me much more than the later and contemporary means of transport, wish i could stay there much longer than is possible now)
Hey, Douglas, didn’t you find Machinarium one of the most gorgeous and cutest games you’ve ever played ?…. I certainly did ! Played it three times and can’t wait for a new full lenght game from Amanita Design. Computer art at its best !
( sorry to highjack your post kockopes… ) .… is it even possible to success in town?
Sure thing, check this out : http://www.train-fever.com/forums/topic/my-metropolis-1500-population/
Btw, great advice by Douglas, you’ll see.
I think what Neldot means is the icon at the far right/bottom, Tattoo. It shows three options, with the second ( land use) you’ll get a colored indication of where the specific zones are, residential, commercial, leisure, etc.
Nothing short of amazing, Klinn ! Very inspirational too !
Could you possibly elaborate a little bit about how you modified the terrain ?
Thank you very much on forehand and congrats with your fantastic Metropolis ! 🙂
Cheers,
jan
Great video, Yeol, well done !
Do you connect cities with buses/trams *and* trains ?…
You have quite a lot of buses/trams running. At 5.40ish i can count 6 buses and a tram in one shot and quite a crowd still waiting at the stop. I can’t help wondering why do these guys love to take the bus so much to take them to another city, while they know they might have to wait an hour or so.. (glad for them it doesn’t rain in this beautiful virtual world (yet..;-)) Don’t they know there trains going as well ?….. Funny guys, huh…. 😉
Congrats with your Glacier Express too ! Fantastic work !
Cheers,
Jan
Thanks for the tips, guys. It did work but only for a moment… I forgat to check the city demand which already was at 50/50… Then i tried to deliver the goods from mill.2 to the new city where the coal mine belongs to. Hooked up 3 goods wagons to the coal train but then the coal wouldn’t transfer anymore to the truck stop, to be picked up by the mill.2 truck… Instead mill.1 started to upgrade its production significantly and filled up the freight station with goods which were then picked up by the coal train and taken to the new city. The coal mine production upgraded too, coal wagons now fully filled ( nice new load animation ! 😉 )
Great fun, learned a lot during this exercise ! 🙂
Henri, i do meet with a few probs when using an intercity bus line which do not occur when using a railway.F.i., it’s the 1930’s era and at the moment freight trucks are much faster than buses. As the TF car drivers have yet to learn that it’s Ok to overtake a slower vehicle it can happen that 3 or more trucks can be seen stuck behind a bus on a pretty long winding country road. That makes me nervous… 😉 ( once faster buses become available that problem will be gone of course )
Another problem is this :
I really feel for those guys… 😉
I have 6 buses running on that intercity bus line now. (frequency is 4 minutes). After a bus has unloaded its last passengers at the bus station of city A and goes on its return trip to city B, after the first and second stop the bus is already totally filled up with passengers… It seems obvious that i need to atleast double the amount of buses but then i see terrible trouble when the times comes to replace all these buses and keep a good seperation between them going. And certainly when 6 or 7 cities are connected this way….
How do you go about keeping queue’s at the stops reasonably and not look like that there’s a rock concert going on at the other side of the road ?…. ( train station platforms can get pretty much filled up as well but once the train has arrived the queue is gone in a second)
Thanks a lot for your elaborate explanation, Henri ! 🙂
Your development method isn’t that different from mine only i use trains instead of buses to connect cities. I did find that setting up bus and tram lines first in the cities i initially want to connect, wait and see what they do and only then connect the cities via railway. I was curious to find out about your bus city connection so i tried that with immidiate success. People couldn’t wait to hop these (6) buses ! 😉 Mind you, this bus line went to a city which wasn’t connected by railway just yet. I will certainly use this method in my next endeavour.
Thanks much again for this tip and explanation. It certainly is helpful !!
Cheers,
Jan
Now hold on a minute there, gents…
You talk about wanting larger maps so am i to understand that you tackled the sofar largest map with all ( or most..) cities connected with eachother, all ( or most..) of their demands fullfilled and all (or most..) industries producing more or less 100 % with, say, 750 million in the bank and counting ??….
I have been playing this wonderful transport game for 145 hours now but every time i try to expand my ( medium map, medium difficulty, medium terrain) good working 4 or 5 cities connection, most industries hard at work, each of the 4 or 5 cities running various profitable bus and tram lines, and say 25 million in the bank and counting, it all goes terribly wrong…. It seems to happen everytime i try to connect that other city in the far distance and/or upgrade single track to double track which then requires to demolish single track stations and replace with double track stations, which in turn often requires to demolish some expensive buildings, and add more trains. Schedule then needs to be adjusted which then leaves all platforms, which used to be filled up with passengers, just about empty….
In the end of such disastrous actions my bank account usually has diminished from 25 or 30 million and counting to a measily 8 million and counting down… Train figures in the red, bus and tram figures in the red, and before i know it my bank account also in the red… Another booming business down the drain…
So how on virtual earth do you guys manage to run a large map without getting bankrupt ??….
Can you, real transport tycoons, possibly shine some light on what to do and what not ?….
Do you start in the 1950’s f.i. ? Choose high speed electrified double track from the start, use branch lines rather than city to city, upgrade streets from the start, etc and so on ?….. In other words, what’s the secret behind setting up a large, profitable map and still keep the money flowing ( in the right direction) ?
Any enlightenment highly appreciated ! 😉
And what about a driver for the early, open, road transport vehicles ?…. The models sure do look nice enough to deserve that. ( passengers too but maybe that’s a little too much to ask…. )
Also me thinks that smoke from houses, buildings, industrie is waaay too exaggerated ( looks like the whole city is on fire… ) I wouldn’t mind if there’s no smoke at all ( apart from the steam locs ), maybe only some from the industrie. Will help a lot with the framerate too i guess.
Thank you !! Must’ve left my mind at station C…..
You are absolutely right. I just stupidly forgat to assign another line to track 2 once i coupled 3 and 2 together.
I’ll spend another time in the corner wearing my dunce hat… (maybe i’d better keep it on for a while.. )
Thanks once again, Varana ! 🙂
Thanks Capitano,
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I can imagine.. 😉
Thanks for the tip, i’ll keep that in mind !
Couldn’t abandon my 3 booming cities afterall… Cleared away this whole new second line and tried again at the other side, the beginning of the 3 city line. While the new city i tried to connect is also at the other side of the map it was an immidiate success. ( for the first time i tried high speed track with the TGV ) Got 40 pax on the platform on the second run already. That’s more than i ever got in the 40 years running this ‘dead’ line. 😉
No doubt i must’ve been doing something wrong but i have not been able to find out what…
Very impressive ! Kudos ! 😉
How are your buses and trams doing ?
I see no traffic jams (great!), in fact there’s relatively little traffic in your city… How do you manange that ?
You still have 1950’s buses running in 1986, any particular reason ? ( i do like these nice looking red and cream 50’s buses too 😉
Thanks for showing your city, very inspiring !
It’s working !
Thanks, hert ! The reason it didn’t work was a tiny piece of road that was missing between the truck station road and the road into town. Corrected that and in came the oil. 😉
Both trucks are supplied by one truck station at the oil well. The production of the oil well is at 40 now.
Great to know because a situation like this, where there’s only one oil well or ore mine and 2 or more refineries or steel mills in the neigborhood is not uncommon.
Onwards to the next challenge. 😉
