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  • in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #14617
    Oroberus
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    Hallo,

    da mir mittlerweile einfach die Geduld fehlt das noch aus Höflochkeit in englisch zu tun, werde ich meinen letzten Post in meiner Muttersprache verfassen.

    Ich habe dem Spiel und den Entwicklern nun über ein viertel Jahr Zeit gegeben und tatsächlich haben Patches zwischenzeitlich (wie man an meinem vorherigen Post ja sehen kann) durchaus ein wenig Besserung gebracht aber selbst jetzt noch ist das Spiel nicht flüssig spielbar.

    Ich habe sowohl in der Zwischenzeit als auch heute noch mal, nachdem ja wieder gepatcht wurde, fleißig mit Treibern und Einstellungen gespielt aber die Performance hat sich seit dem oben erwähnten Patch im September nicht verbessert.

    Nach wie vor ist die framerate eher grausig als brauchbar und das Verlegen von Schienen kaum möglich, davon auf der Karte herumzuscrollen mal ganz zu schweigen. Hier muss ich sagen hat sich das erste mal in den 20 Jahren in denen ich nun schon Konsolen und PC-Spiele spiele ein Entwickler/Publisher mit “meinem Geld davongemacht”.

    Und das scheint nicht nur bei mir der Fall zu sein nachdem sich auch die Reviews und die Meinung in den Steamforen zu dem Spiel seit dem Release nicht merklich verbessert haben.

    Dies mal hats geklappt Urban Games/Gambitious aber das war auch das letzte Mal.

    Viel Erfolg noch mit diesem absolut unausgereiftem Beta-Status den ihr als Gold-Status vermarktet habt.

    Oh und zum Abschied noch ein kleine, etwas mehr einem rant angemessene, Floskel die vielleicht verdeutlicht wie angefressen ich deshalb mittlerweile bin, nachdem ich mich immer bemüht habe recht sachlich zu bleiben.

    Fuck Off Urban Games

    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #7142
    Oroberus
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    Hi,

     

    the latest patch (or better to say first real patch) made it a bit better. The game still stutters but at least it is in a state to call it playable. Most stuttering occurs during track/road placement or if you move the screen, if the screen is moved while roads or tracks are placed, it is still as bad as before.

     

    But seems like you’re on the right way there.

    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #6131
    Oroberus
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    Hi Mikael,

     

    don’t get me wrong, I can understand how hard it is for a small team to keep up at every possible setup and issue and I really appreciate your answer. Indeed, the thing that makes me upset, isn’t even that TF is not running or not running in a state that it is enjoyable, it is more the way the whole issue is presented.

    As I stated earlier, an announcement directly on issues and that you’re working on it but just can’t tell right now would calm the whole discussion. I’m not only talking about my own mood but the temper that’s coming up on all support sections regarding TF. Fanboys meeting ranters and in this case I can’t deny that I’m ranting myself, while there is no official stuff from the team beside the small sidenote in my often quoted “brilliant release announcement”.

    I hope that there will be a solution soon and I assure you, that I will keep starting TF every once in a while with new builds or ideas I had myself regarding changing some setup and check if theres a change.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Oroberus.
    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #6106
    Oroberus
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    Just another WA for nVicia users, still nothing for ATI/AMD users, besides, this only respects laptops but desktops also experience this issue. Besides that, this solution is an already well known and often repeated one.

    I think most of the nVidia users should be able to play by now, only the ATI/AMD people still missing.

    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #5713
    Oroberus
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    Well, now we’ve got build 2341 and nothing changed, beside calling this a “brilliant launch” on steam by Basil.

    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #4850
    Oroberus
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    I only got one graphic card and only this one (with the correct ID) is shown, so selecting it manually is no possibility there.
    Comp mode vista was one of the first things I tried even before going posting here the first time.

    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #4823
    Oroberus
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    I tried different resolutions, different graphic settings ingame, windowed mode, I also tried to start a new game, save and then load it, the stuttering shows no change. Also, it does not only occur ingame, it is also occuring in the main menu, as soon as the cursor comes near a button, stuttering kicks in.

    In the meantime I spent nearly 3 hours of ingame time just messing around with different settings. All in all I tried about 5 or 6 hours of different tricks, from beta drivers to orcing/unforcing different presets and even messing around with some response delays in the registries (which are even with the 14.4 driver and the 14.7 beta driver are needed to avoid crash-on-start-issue).

    By now I visited the Steam forums, this forum and the TF-Community forum in search of solutions and yet there seems no solution for this issue.

    And as you can see in my first post my rig easily should handle this game so I’m totally clueless by now what else to try.

    So by now I’m calling shenanigans on the code itself (maybe based on 64-bit or a multithreading issue).

     

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Oroberus.
    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #4795
    Oroberus
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    Reinstalling was of no use for me but I tried the latest experimental AMD driver (14.7) together with the raised driver response registry and no it is running but you can’t really call it running.

    Stutering as hell, mouse movement is skipping frames and also is screen movement.

    Funny thing about it: Lowering the camera to the ground so that horizon is showing lowers the rate of stuttering, the more ground that can be seen, the worse the stuttering gets, even with lots of assets in the field of view, if the camera angle is low, stuttering nearly disappears. On a 90° angle it’s just not playable.

    So for AMD users with performance issues, updating the drivers does not help.

    Btw what about the devs? I’ve not seen a reply to AMD users of dekstop rigs neither here nor on steam while for nVidia rigs solutions are given.

    I would love to see some shown interest for ALL customers by the devs. 😉

    (I know, they’re/you’re only 5 guys but Banished was done by only one guy without that bunch of performance issues on release and without even having beta testers to check issues up front afaik)

    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #4615
    Oroberus
    Participant

    Ok and here we go with triple post

    After messing around with the CCC and some presets nothing worked out so I tried some other tricks regarding the graphics and setting the response for the graphic drivers on 10 (decimal) within a new registry entry stops the game from crashing right after loading but leads to a crash a while into the game.

    So the issue definitely is an issue with the graphics drivers (the most recent of AMD in this case).

    Guess you guys will have to put some work in there again and you should not wait too long with it as Steam community already is pretty upset regarding this (and other) issue/s.

    Maybe an announcement on steam regarding issues are known and will be worked on ASAP would benefit your reputation there.

    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #4607
    Oroberus
    Participant

    Hi,

     

    sorry for dpuble posting but may this problem with ATI cards and the game freezing/turning back at starting a new game be based on one of the option in CCC? I recall that a while ago a game had a problem with some oreset oreferences in the CCC just like forced multisample (but can’t remember the game)

     

    Don’t starve had blurry textures without forced multisampling via CCC I can remember.

    Beside that maybe a 64bit issue only? As even updated drivers don’t seem to work.

    Gonna test some stuff in CCC now, can’t get worse 😀

    in reply to: Crash right after start !!!!!! #4538
    Oroberus
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    Hi,

     

    same problem here, also the cursor is lagging on the mainstream while mouseover any button.

     

    Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1

    Processor: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor            (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz
    Memory: 16384MB RAM

    Card name: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
    Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
    Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6798)
    DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
    Display Memory: 4095 MB

     

    I already updated my drivers but no change occured so far.

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