Diamond Crossing Dissapointment – Train Fever /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/feed/ Wed, 30 Apr 2025 12:28:22 +0000 https://bbpress.org/?v=2.6.13 en-US /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19436 <![CDATA[Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19436 Thu, 03 Sep 2015 16:50:41 +0000 Perchpole Although I am delighted to see a new patch, the much-anticipated “diamond” crossing is a disappointment. This is not a diamond crossing in the traditional sense. It is what we would call a “scissors” crossing.

A read diamond crossing would be much more useful. I hope we really will see one soon. It would allow us to create proper junctions which is what we need.

:0(

Perchpole

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19437 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19437 Thu, 03 Sep 2015 17:02:07 +0000 shaddaz yes it is a bit of a dissapointment as it is not applied fully

merging tracks is the real reason for needing a X crossover so feeling a little let down by this one 🙁

lets hope that the next patch (after another few months) will correct this issue

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19439 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19439 Thu, 03 Sep 2015 17:53:27 +0000 admin We are sorry about the confusion! As stated in the heading of the announcement and in the patch notes, we implemented a diamond crossover.

The term diamond “crossing” slipped into the text by mistake, but was corrected due to your feedback.

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19440 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19440 Thu, 03 Sep 2015 18:22:35 +0000 Perchpole The game needs a proper “diamond” crossing – a way of crossing one track with another. It would lead to much more useful track formations.

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19448 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19448 Fri, 04 Sep 2015 08:33:27 +0000 Norfolk_Chris I’m really disappointed that Urban Games mis-understood our requests for a crossing to create realistic double track junctions.  This type of junction is used commonly all over the world.

How can a game that is all about railways not have this from day one?

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19603 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19603 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:37:08 +0000 Mike Sorry guys, but diamond crossings almost never used in Europe. So it’s understandable it’s not one of first features in the game. Diamond crossing means traffic lights, and the train stops not-on-the-station to wait for another train to pass. In fact, transport companies pay heavy penalties for any off-station stops or even slow-downs. Taking into account busyness, speeds and strict timetables here in Europe the diamond crossings are simply unimaginable.

It’s like putting a crossing with traffic lights on a highway – can you imagine that? Also, one train slows down means all the following will have to slow down or stop. Loss of lots of money.

However I agree that aesthetically the diamond crossing is an awesome thing; it exist and managed in modern life in many countries. So it should be implemented.

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19607 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19607 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:30:57 +0000 simonmd Sorry but simply not true, Diamond Crossings ARE used extensively in Europe and are certainly NOT as you describe “crossings with traffic lights” !!

Example 1, a complicated Diamon Crossing junction outside Newcastle Station inthe UK,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHt1aEXXAAAHDxl.jpg

That is an extreme and very complicated example, here is a more common example which you will find in EVERY rail network in Europe at some point, I guarantee it,

http://www.deathbyhealthandsafety.co.uk/safetyvalve/cheshunt.html

That page had several different views of a junction near Cheshunt in the UK and you can clearly see how usefull the diamond crossing is. The very name comes from the Diamond shape it makes when the first line crosses over the second to enable the lines to branch from each other. Basically, ANY double track line that wants to split into two double tracks MUST USE A DIAMOND CROSSING!! So sorry, to say they are not common in Europe is just plain wrong.

 

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19615 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19615 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:55:24 +0000 Mike Awesome first pic! 😀

Hm.. I admit you’ve got the point these exist, especially near stations, I agree. But these are for junction reasons not crossing. When 1 2-track splits into 2 2-tracks for example. But still agree with me they are inefficient because the train on the crossing track makes incoming train wait for it to cross, and vice versa. In the second drawing there’s a conflict between the Up Southburry and Dn Cambridge lines. In absolutely all new constructions I’ve seen in Belgium, Germany or Switzerland they always use the bridge over the track, the motorway-style.

But yes, near stations where speed is slower these are quite helpful.

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19616 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19616 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 16:01:45 +0000 Perchpole Mike –

You have no idea what you’re talking about! Diamonds are used extensively – most often at junctions as in this case:

Such a feature in Train Fever would be very useful.

Perchpole

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/forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19621 <![CDATA[Reply To: Diamond Crossing Dissapointment]]> /forums/topic/diamond-crossing-dissapointment/#post-19621 Tue, 08 Sep 2015 19:04:59 +0000 PickPay Ah now I get where the diamond comes from. I’d be curious to see some of your maps. My railways are quite simplistic and I’m wondering how to improve traffic to reduce times., This would be convenient indeed. same station pier sharing 2 lines.

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